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and the have been fighting for copyleft the past decades. But if you look at their financial statement, you’ll see that their paid staff are just a dozen people. All the others are volunteers.

The Tor project alone has more employees than the FSF. Github has almost 6000 employees. Six thousand.

So the advocates for must be us. We can’t point at the FSF and say “they didn’t do it”. They provide resources. We have to use them to protect our freedom as users.

@ArneBab Most people at the FSF aren’t working on GNU except keeping some infrastructure online. Much of the work is done by volunteers.

The reality is that the FSF has some good people but they’re hampered by the fact Stallman has ruined the FSF and copyleft for many of the people who used to be supporters.

FSF finances took a hit in the last few years because of his actions.

Where is this “GNU OS”? Why the insistence on arguing about the name of Linux? All of that eats at any good will.

@mattl I wrote a longer answer but deleted it again. Read the Stallman report in detail (again?) and check how much of it would stand if you evaluated it with the law in most member states of the EU.

About GNU OS: Android is not GNU. Can you update a stock Android?

@ArneBab I’m talking about Stallman’s professional behavior. His personal behavior is well documented.

Stallman’s weird insistence with language and phrases is incredibly off putting to most people. It is also cult-like behavior getting people to conform a lingo.

The whole GNU/Linux thing is incredibly stupid.

Failure to embrace open source.

Failure to embrace Creative Commons.

@ArneBab Refusal to use modern computing.

Weird attitude towards Linux in the early days that general purpose PCs were basically garbage.

The GFDL

Absolute refusal to do anything approaching useful with mobile devices

Weirdly paranoid about the web

Why are you asking me about Android?

@mattl I’m asking you about Android, because Android is Linux without GNU.

And most Android devices are locked down in a way that’s incompatible with user freedom. Would be illegal if the system was licensed under GPLv3.

My kids can’t get rid of the pre-installed surveillance crap (nor can I get rid of it for them).

Regarding GFDL: Wikipedia worked with FSF to move from GFDL to cc by-sa. FSF actually changed the GFDL to enable that.

The FSF pages are licensed under creativecommons licenses.