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It would have been even more interesting to include #Cuba to chart, with a fraction of per/capita cost of Italy and even better health report than the US for 3 decades now.
Also, the #EU chosen countries displayed are among the worse performers, while the recent years' #UK demolition of #NHS can be seen by a sharp right turn.
The difference between socialized health system and state insurance is far more significant.
@yianiris Well, this is nominally more apples to apples, whereas including Cuba would be a bit apples to oranges.
I think most people view these countries as comparable to the US and that is what makes this chart so compelling and persuasive.
Adding in Australia and Canada would have been interesting and continue the apples to apples aspect. But the chart was done for UK audience so it focused more on UK comparable.
I agree that other charts looking more directly at alternative, more socialized medical systems would be interest.
And the stuff about the NHS is just flabbergasting. i have relatives in the UK so I am very much in the loop at that. In fact was just talking with someone about a needed medical visit there, and the current wait times.
If there is a great achievement by western Europe in the 20th century it would have been the NHS. But 40 years of intentional demolition of it to float neoliberal illusions of privatized health care may result in decline in service.
In what way, other than your personal lingual bias, is Australia more comparable to the US than Scandinavian countries?
Sci.lit. on health systems are flooded by the Scandinavian examples.
Read NIH study of US/UK by Derek G. Gill
@yianiris @nwchapman
I fear the Scandinavian lifestyle is too socialist for the US.
People there feel more like a community and society is considered great and urgent.
When I put this to perspective to the US, I see more egoism and capitalism.
That makes it difficult to compare.
Some decades back in academic debates projecting the Scandinavian "ideal" as an example, yours truly was commenting that it may be more comfortable for industrialists to convert Europe to what the US is than for the US to implement socialized anything. Even though health insurance was born in Baltimore, MD in the 40s (Bethlehem Steel/Kaiser).
It was labor unions in the US that rejected publicly funded health insurance on the fear that the state controlled their lives
National Socialism (NaZi) is about the only thing in growth in Europe, the NHS is replaced by private health care, populism and #islamophobia is replacing rationalism, and feeding the ww3 front to ensure nat.gas/grain flows is dominating political life.
We are doomed and there is no place to hide, we know of very little left to do to avert this global social catastrophe capitalism has been rushing us to.
@yianiris @nwchapman
I tend to agree, that nationalism is on the rise. Not only in Europe, but in the US of A too.
I think it’s a reaction to the international political decline of the so called West. But I still hope that society can overcome the threat that comes with the capitalist-nationalist combination.