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@alexshendi @screwtape @pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights

Yeah, we're watching the debate here at home, so I have a different time conflict than usual. We're usually out at this time. But I don't think the "cacaphony" would fly here. I'll have to pick up the show on tape later. Hope it's going well!

@kentpitman
@nosrednayduj had me choose different music at least. I guess I was feeling a bit techno-optimistic today, so I did my best to refer people to your log article directly https://netsettlement.blogspot.com/2024/09/repairing-democracy.html

Thanks for making it @alexshendi !

@pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights

The other music was by @lehto @socool @xylander by the way.

@nosrednayduj
is there a public link for @wrog's moo-mode ? People are asking me for it and I remembered you saying you and he use that. I was just using lisdude's fork of rmoo-mode before tinyfugue

@kentpitman @alexshendi @pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights @lehto @socool @xylander

@screwtape @nosrednayduj @kentpitman @alexshendi @pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights @lehto @socool @xylander

Go to https://wrog.net/emacs/
get mud-mcp.el

(and maybe also the rest of the files there except for mud-mcp_2_0.el which is just an earlier version of mud-mcp.el, except they won't really matter if you don't actually use MCP)

I should probably put together an actual page, but what you want from there is mud-mcp.el

which is really an MCP implementation, but you don't have to care about that. Down at the bottom (scroll to "comint.el support") you'll see there's a definition for

M-x mud-mcp-connect

which is really all you need.

Well okay, that, and a

mud-sites.el

file with a list of sites, e.g.,

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@screwtape @nosrednayduj @kentpitman @alexshendi @pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights @lehto @socool @xylander

the mud-sites.el file needs to look like this:

(defconst mud-sites
'(
;;;
;;; NAME TYPE HOST PORT
;;;
("LambdaMOO" MOO "lambda.moo.mud.org" 8888)
))

;; this being the file format that mud.el (which had drivers for a wide variety of mud types and thus references the 2nd column to see which one to use, but mud-mcp only knows about talking to MOOs, so the 2nd column gets ignored) uses.

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@screwtape @nosrednayduj @kentpitman @alexshendi @pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights @lehto @socool @xylander

I, of course, have a much larger list of entries in mine, but most of them are 25+ years old and long gone

... though, surprisingly there are 4 or 5 still up that I would not have expected... (not sure how much advertising their owners want, so I'll leave it at that for now...)

@screwtape @nosrednayduj @kentpitman @alexshendi @pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights @lehto @socool @xylander

(gives me more of an incentive to get 1.9.0 out the door...)

@screwtape @nosrednayduj @kentpitman @alexshendi @pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights @lehto @socool @xylander

"I should probably put together an actual page,"

This is now done
https://wrog.net/emacs/

meaning I wrote a bunch of text
expanding on what I said here, explaining stuff that might otherwise have seemed mysterious. Also added some files. And some reminiscing.

Anyway this is now My Page of Emacs Shit That I Wrote That I Still Use. Enjoy.

(a relatively small collection, but there you have it; it might yet grow if I discover other things that I still use )

@wrog
That's really great wrog, it's wonderful to vicariously experience personal histories of emacs (and mooing) like you've put together here for those of us who weren't-there at the time, or maybe just aren't there yet.
@nosrednayduj @kentpitman
thank you for your pages that are kinda like this too.
@alexshendi @pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights @lehto @socool @xylander

@screwtape @wrog @nosrednayduj @kentpitman @alexshendi @pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights @lehto @socool @xylander Iam very intrigued about this moo thing, i saw in internet that it is like a multiplayer asci game and chat at the same time?

@SadielEd @screwtape @wrog @kentpitman @alexshendi @pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights @lehto @socool @xylander Chat room with interactive scenery!

@wrog @screwtape @nosrednayduj @kentpitman @alexshendi @pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights @lehto @socool @xylander I see some relationship with this and @neauoire paradise game https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/paradise.html I wonder if he was inspired by mood. Tag me if you plan another mood session and if iam free i might participate.

@SadielEd
Every Wednesday 000UTC we will be in paradise sushi, though lambda exists all the time.
Hypothetically Fridays 1400UTC, but since I moved I haven't managed to make it live.
We can always ask @neauoire directly how consciously influenced they were by MOOing. @jlamothe any relation viz paradise?

@wrog
I guess symbolic processing sounds cyberpunk too, or baroque.

@nosrednayduj @kentpitman @alexshendi @pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights @lehto @socool @xylander

@screwtape @SadielEd @neauoire @jlamothe @nosrednayduj @kentpitman @alexshendi @pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights @lehto @socool @xylander

> symbolic processing sounds cyberpunk too, or baroque.

Symbolic processing is just what *all* computers do. That's what programming (more specifically, compiling) is, manipulation of symbols to build software, taking the expression of an algorithm and producing executable code that actually does something.

And the word I used was "steampunk" which is specifically about odd, improbable juxtapositions of technology and inventions occurring out of order,

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@screwtape @SadielEd @neauoire @jlamothe @nosrednayduj @kentpitman @alexshendi @pkw @flockofnazguls @prahou @northernlights @lehto @socool @xylander

e.g., 19th century folks with nuclear submarines,
a modern NSA operating in the Victorian era with Jaquard looms to do all of their number crunching,
an Internet built out of pneumatic tubes,

or interstellar spaceships with vacuum-tube computers or Rube-Goldberg mechanical engines that Kaylee knows how to fix because back on Colony World Whatever her daddy taught her how to repair farm equipment and she just has an instinctive feel for that stuff.

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@screwtape It seems I need to post a retraction (or at least correction) of this comment.

While the restaurant in question was the inspiration, it was neither named Sushi Paradise, nor was it located in Hamilton. It was in Etobicoke. I don't remember its name.

The word "paradise" came about because Katy and I had been playing a lot of Animal Crossing, and was taken from "Paradise Planning" (an in-game business that designs vacation homes).

I thought I might've been misremembering at the time, but when a quick search revealed that "Sushi Paradise" was in fact a real restaurant, confirmation bias set in.

Damn plasticity of the mind.

@me I will inform the public