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@davidrevoy Wow, that’s awesome! I didn’t know could do this!

Does this also work with scanned pencil drawings?

@ArneBab Hey, thank you! Yes, it can work in theory. I saw the other day a new generation of pencil: the 'mate' or 'black' (Staedler and Faber Castel) that behaves a bit like colored black pencils, and in general less shiny and metallic than usual pencils. If I see them on my artshop at next visit, I'll try them, because I'm curious also about trying to tone greyscale on my sketchbook as a softer alternative to what I do with ballpen right now but usual pencil shines a bit too much for me.

@davidrevoy I have 6 of those Faber Castell matte here,, but I didn’t yet test the difference side-by-side.

I can test them and scan the result if it helps you ☺

Or do you need a photo (I could take a rough photo with the webcam)?

@ArneBab Oh nice you have them, so yes maybe you can enlight me about something: do they smudge easily? It's for a problem of sketchbook; my 2B pencil drawing often transfert easily on the other side of the paper when I close the sketchbook. I know I can spray fixative, but I often don't have the spray while traveling. I'm looking for dark pencils that don't transfert (and no problem if they can't erase well).

@davidrevoy For smudging: I just tried rubbing the sheets together and didn’t see any smudging, but I think I didn’t put on enough to actually see that. I’ll try making it darker …

here’s a first test without smudging and without any postprocessing.

@davidrevoy Here’s an adjusted version with a line erased into the eyes and aggressive smudging with the finger over the mouth (left is the normal pencil, right is the matte, I do not see a significant difference …) and three hash-tests: 12B, 6B, 2B, all three smudged for about 2 seconds with the finger (I only see smudging for the 12B, the others seem clean).

I rubbed the two sheets again, but still don’t see anything transfer to the other side.

Arne Babenhauserheide

@davidrevoy The left eye is with a normal HB pencil, the right eye with a 2B matte (but not sharpened …), the left part of the mouth with a 2B mechanical pencil (0.5), the right part of the mouth with a 2B matte pencil (but sharpened), the whole nose is with 6B, the chin and below is with 12B matte.

Is there another specific test you’d need?

@ArneBab Oh thanks! 😍 That's perfect, thank you for the time you took doing that. Super interesting to see the smudge tests and the erasing. I think I'll get them on a online artshop this evening so I can play with them later next week. 😊

@ArneBab ... and I just bought them :) I should receive them at the end of next week, I'll try to post sketches done with them before the end of the month.

@ArneBab I received them yesterday afternoon (that was quick!). I love them, it's really like the "pierre noire" I'm using in signing session and a bit like colored black pencil but a little bit less waxy. Very smooth on bristol paper and cool variation of grayscale in the line. Defintely adopted! Thank you again for the tests and recommendation. 👍

@davidrevoy very cool! I’m glad my little test helped you!