Wanna brainstorm some what-ifs?
Federated Moderation: What if Moderation was an #activitypub extension and moderation actions would federate to ease the life of mods + admins?
Delegated Moderation: What if moderators weren't bound to instances, and could just jump in on another instance to help do the work?
Moderation-as-a-Service: What if mods provided their services via federated @activitypub models, gained trust and reputation based on your feedback?
In the Freenet project (where centralized moderation simply is no option) the answer was to propagate blocking between users in a transparent way. That way blocking disrupters scales better than disrupting. For more info see: https://www.draketo.de/english/freenet/friendly-communication-with-anonymity
Yes, this is interesting, and I think it matches the first part of the the Lemmy post about Federating Moderation.
This allows people to get insight in metrics surrounding moderation action, while you can still have each and every fedizen to make their own individual decision whether or not to take action themselves.
@humanetech @tio @activitypub If you want to try this, there are two steps: First the current state in Freenet: https://github.com/xor-freenet/plugin-WebOfTrust/blob/master/developer-documentation/core-developers-manual/OadSFfF-version1.2-non-print-edition.pdf
Then the optimizations needed so this scales to arbitrary size: https://www.draketo.de/english/freenet/deterministic-load-decentralized-spam-filter
Here’s some data if you want to test algorithms: https://figshare.com/articles/dataset/The_Freenet_social_trust_graph_extracted_from_the_Web_of_Trust/4725664
And some starting code of a more generic prototype for faster testing: https://hg.sr.ht/~arnebab/wispwot/
In the #FediverseFutures initiative I am aiming for more creative brainstorming processes to be unleashed and collected for anyone to jump in on, if it has their passion.
I am not able time-wise to follow-up on all of the topics I start, nor having concrete implementation plans on them (though sometimes I do).
The Lemmy and SocialHub spaces serve as idea archives in that way. Stuff waiting to be elaborated further.
@humanetech @tio @activitypub I’m not there, no. Feel free to copy over my posts here. I hope they help people tackle these issues, because global-scale moderation without centralized control is one of the huge tasks ahead of us — a task that was mostly ignored in the Clearnet (there were underpaid moderators to burn out after all) but tackled within the Freenet Project more than a decade ago.
If people have questions about the math for scaling, it would be great if you could point them to me.
You should have a look at the SocialHub topic. It contains two links to other topics where researchers - one being @robertwgehl - announce they are investigating Moderation in decentralized (fedi) contexts.
Your input may be invaluable to them. Here's the #SocialHub link:
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